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 Post subject: Re: Mancare pe drum
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:05 pm 
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bhairava wrote:
fara vitamine nu crapi, presupunind ca nu pleci sa faci turul lumii pe jos sau ceva. eventual

Nu crapi, da' nici bine nu iti merge. La vit C si K2 ( MK7 ) ma refer.

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pudra de L-ascorbic acid de pe ebay :P

Este un nemtisor pe ebay, care imi trimite pachet cu vit C la kilograme, non-GMO si la celmai ieftin pret posibil.

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 Post subject: Re: Mancare pe drum
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:23 am 
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enter wrote:
bhairava wrote:
fara vitamine nu crapi, presupunind ca nu pleci sa faci turul lumii pe jos sau ceva. eventual

Nu crapi, da' nici bine nu iti merge. La vit C si K2 ( MK7 ) ma refer.

bhairava wrote:
pudra de L-ascorbic acid de pe ebay :P

Este un nemtisor pe ebay, care imi trimite pachet cu vit C la kilograme, non-GMO si la celmai ieftin pret posibil.



ne dai si noua un link? medium48


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 Post subject: vitamina C
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enter wrote:
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ne dai si noua un link? medium48

Link pe ebuy.ca n-am mai gasit, ca si-l schimba tot mereu. Dar iti dau carte ade vizita : scrie-i , spune-i cata vit C vrei sa cumperi ( minim 1 kg - in jur de 15-16 $ era pe ebuy ) si sa-ti dea un pret. Livreaza in Romania, ca au mai cumparat si altii amici de-ai mei, de la el. Daca cumperi cantitate maimare, iti face reducere (mie mi-a facut la 5 kg, mai ieftin decat pretul care il avea el pe ebuy ).

Apeleaza cu incredere, ca nemtisorul e foarte corect si eficient : sunt client vechi de-al lui.

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 Post subject: Re: Mancare pe drum
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:38 pm 
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Daca cumperi cantitate maimare, iti face reducere (mie mi-a facut la 5 kg, mai ieftin decat pretul care il avea el pe ebuy ).

Enter, scuza-mi indiscretia, dar ce faci cu vit C in cantitati de ordinul kilogramelor?! o dizolvi in piscina? :)

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 Post subject: Re: Mancare pe drum
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Enter, scuza-mi indiscretia, dar ce faci cu vit C in cantitati de ordinul kilogramelor?! o dizolvi in piscina? :)

O mananc : cu aproximatie 1 kg / luna, la 2 persoane. Cumpar mai mult o data, ca n-am chef sa platesc transportul pachetului, in fiecare luna.

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 Post subject: Re: Mancare pe drum
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Inteleg. Asta inseamna o medie de aproape 2g/zi de persoana, doza aproape terapeutica. Pentru mine si 1g/zi e mult, prefer sa nu ma antioxidez fara masura, adica ideea e sa beneficiez de efectele benefice ale inflamatiei via hormesis => diverse procese reparatorii, cresteri ale abilitatilor fizice in urma antrenamentelor etc

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vitamina-c-t651.html


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A ten pound rabbit makes about one–half gram of Vitamin C each day.
( That is 1 gram per 20 pounds of body weight. 1,000 mg. / day / 20 lbs. b.w. )

To match this, a 200–pound man would need to take 10 grams ( 10,000 mg. ) of Vitamin C each day !


A study was done to find out how much Vitamin C was necessary to "saturate" our blood's Lymphocytes ( Provide them with as much as they need ) . The study concluded that it took "4.5 grams per day ( 4,500 mg. ) for a woman and More for men".

Vitamin C in excess of our body's cellular needs provides the function of a chelating agent removing harmful materials such as lead from our bodies. You would need to consume about 20 grams of Vitamin C a day for a couple of weeks to realize any toxic symptoms. ( This follows the general rule that "Twice Optimum is Toxic".


deci, nu e mult un kil.

iar avind in vedere ca unii mai maninca zahar, care INTRA IN COMPETITIE CU VITAMINA C, DECI DEGEABA O IAU, cresterea dozei e cu atit mai importanta... eu iau cam o lingurita cu virf de acid ascorbic levogir zilnic.

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Form these available figures, "full correction" of hypoascorbemia in a 70-kilogram adult human is estimated to require a daily intake of 2,000 to 4,000 milligrams (2.0 to 4.0 grams) of ascorbic acid, under conditions of little or no stress. Under conditions of stress, the data indicates an increase to about 15,000 milligrams (15.0 grams) per day. Under very severe stresses, even more may be required.

[...] Under conditions of biochemical stress, the frequency an size of the doses are increased depending upon severity of the stress. Amounts over 100 grams (100,000 milligrams) per day have been suggested for the therapy of acute viral infections. Clinical trials and dosages for the therapy of specific conditions will be discussed in later chapters.

The known lack of toxicity of ascorbic acid would indicate that no general serious side effects or toxic reactions would be incident to these "full correction" regimens. One mild discomfort that has been noted is diarrhea in individuals whose digestive tract is hypersensitive to the cathartic effect of fruit acids. The diarrhea stopped when the dosage was reduced and no other sequela resulted.

[...]In summary, on an equivalent body weight basis the daily intake of ascorbic acid recommended by the National Research Council for humans is 60 milligrams; for monkeys, 3,830 milligrams; and for guinea pigs, 3,920 to 11.650 milligrams. It is noteworthy that the figure for the monkeys is similar to our estimate of the daily amount that would be produced in the human liver if the final essential enzyme were not missing. There is a 55-fold difference between the amount recommended for man and that given for monkeys; and the guinea pigs have a 42- to 167-fold advantage over man. Are these agencies shortchanging the human population in favor of laboratory animals? The pressure groups that are continually complaining of how badly laboratory animals are being treated certainly would have no complaint on this score. It is time we had a pressure group to see that humans also receive enough ascorbic acid!
http://vitamincfoundation.org/stone/ch1 ... 11.htm#C10

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 Post subject: Re: Mancare pe drum
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:26 pm 
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Poate ar trebui sa ne mutam pe topicul cu vitamina C. :D
Ca tot veni vorba, de ce ascorbic acid si nu magnesium ascorbate sau sodium ascorbate? Ambele sint net superioare imo.

Referitor la subiectul care a suscitat interes, si anume doza,
1. vitamina C se recicleaza.
2. Atata vreme cat doza de vitamina C disponibila pe cale naturala, adica cea aflata in "alimente" ingurgitabile, este infima, adica de ordinul mg, imi vine foarte greu spre deloc sa cred ca umanitatea a asteptat cu sufletu' la gura si in neagra bezna anii 1900 si experimentul pe sobolani care sa demonstreze ca omul functioneaza optim cu o doza de vit C echivalenta a 1000 de portocale/zi. Nu sint intr-atat de credul. Vorba cuiva, aia (autori, site-uri etc) de recomanda suplimente cu tona au de vandut ... suplimente, aia care demonizeaza suplimentele si promoveaza 'calea naturii' au de vandut propriile carti de nutritie si lifestyle. Mi se pare strategic sa te pozitionezi astfel incat nu fii fanboy-ul niciuneia dintre tabere. :D
Da, sint perfect constient ca o portocala din anul 1950 ar avea considerabil mai multa vit C decit o portocala generatie 2012, dar nu de zeci, sute, mii de ori.

3. Un principiul de viata, de nutritie, de orice dupa care ma ghidez este acela ca nu exista doar alb absolut, doar bine fara rau, doar plus fara minus. Pur si simplu lucrurile nu functioneaza asa. Orice medalie are si revers, de aceea doza_de_orice conteaza.

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 Post subject: Re: Mancare pe drum
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:32 pm 
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organismul nu stocheaza vitamina C, elimina ce nu are nevoie/prelucreaza/foloseste/


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