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 Post subject: Nutritie - Efectele degenerative ale gatitului
PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:29 pm 
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THE POTTENGER EXPERIMENTS

Perhaps the most important of all the animal experiments with raw and cooked foods are those of Dr. Francis Pottenger, Jr., one of the world's great physicians and food scientists. These were conducted at the long established Pottenger Sanitarium in Monrovia, California, and covered a ten-year period. Both white rats and cats were employed. Rats given heated milk suffered from many kinds of deterioration, and the change in trabeculation of the bones was particularly noticeable.

With the cats the experiments were reported in great detail and covered a large number of animals. A total of 900 cats were studied, and complete records were kept of nearly 600 of them. Through generation after generation the animals were studied, and Dr. Pottenger has issued the detailed results of the experiments as they apply to growth, reproduction, and all phases of the animals' health. In these tests the animals were fed upon meat-scraps (including the muscle, bone, and viscera), milk, and cod liver oil. The animals were divided into various groups, depending upon the condition, whether heated or unheated, in which their foods were given. Some of the cats were fed entirely upon raw meat and raw milk; others were given two-thirds cooked meat and one-third raw milk. In some cases raw meat and pasteurized milk were used. A number of cats were also fed sweetened condensed milk, evaporated milk, or raw metabolized vitamin D milk with raw meat. Cod liver oil was used by all animal groups.

The cats fed entirely upon raw meat and raw milk remained in excellent health in all cases. Physical development was virtually perfect and the cats reproduced in homogeneity from one generation to the next, maintaining large skulls and thoraxes, broad faces with prominent malar and orbital arches, broad and well-formed dental arches, adequate nasal cavities, and large and long bodies. The cats were quite free from vermin, infections, and parasites. The membranes were firm and of good pink color. All evidence of degeneration was absent. Abortion occurred very seldom; the size of the average litter was five, and all of the mother cats nursed their young in a normal manner. The cats possessed excellent equilibrium. Organic development was complete and normal physical and mental function was the general rule. Death resulted only from old age or injuries sustained in fighting. None of the cats died from disease.

Cats which were fed the cooked-meat scraps were defective in many respects. They were smaller in build and the bones were smaller in diameter. In some cases the bones would grow out of proportion, with the hind legs being much longer than the forelegs. The animals did not reproduce in homogeneity, each kitten being of a different skeletal pattern. There were variations of facial structure similar to those of human beings. Configuration of the skulls was different in each individual cat. Often there would be marked failure in the development of the upper lip and in some cases a mandibular protrusion. Dental conditions would usually remain fairly good in the first generation, though gingivitis occasionally developed. Second generation animals usually had much smaller primary teeth than normal and there was irregular spacing of teeth. Bleeding of gums would increase considerably. Some teeth would be lost. In the third generation loss of most of the teeth through decalcification and pyorrhea would be common. Dental development was generally so irregular that the development of the whole face was interfered with. There was severe impairment of bone composition in all cases. The calcium content would fall from the normal 12 to 18 per cent of bone weight in healthy animals to 8 to 12 per cent in the first generation, 3½ to 7 per cent in the second generation, and finally 1½ to 3 per cent in the third generation. The phosphorus content also became progressively less, and by the third generation the bones would be very porous and similar to rubber. This resulted in bowlegs, distorted spines, and other deformities.

Reproductive efficiency was greatly lowered. Abortion ran from 25 per cent in the first generation to as high as 70 per cent in the second generation. Deliveries were very difficult and many cats died in labor. Often the mother was unable to lactate. The mortality rate of the kittens was very high, many of them being even too frail to nurse. In a number of cases the mother would steadily decline in health following birth of the kittens and die about three months later. Others had increasing difficulty with subsequent pregnancies and some failed to become pregnant. In the males there was disturbance of genital development and descent of the testes.

Sterility was so common that raw-food males had to be used for all breeding purposes. Development of the secondary sexual characteristics was incomplete. The degree of masculinity and femininity was lessened and cats of both sexes tended to become more neutral in appearance. For instance, X-ray pictures showed that skulls of third generation cooked-fed animals had neutral profiles for both sexes, as contrasted to the difference in rawfed animals. At the same time sex interest was very slack; in many cases it was perverted, with some cats developing into true homosexuals.

Most of the cats fed cooked meat were very irritable and would occasionally viciously bite the keeper. Intestinal parasites and vermin were very common. Skin lesions and allergies became worse from one generation to the next. Pneumonia and empyema were the most common causes of death in the adult stock; a great number died from diarrhea followed by pneumonia. No cats survived the sixth month of life in the third generation. Among the diseased conditions that were found upon autopsy were: osteomyelitis, cardiac lesions, hyperopia, thyroid disease, hepatitis, nephritis, paralysis, meningitis, cystitis, arthritis, rickets, enlarged colon, bronchitis, fatty infiltration of the muscles, rachitic rosary of the ribs, and enlarged bladder.

Cats fed upon a combination of two-thirds pasteurized milk and one-third raw meat presented much of the same deterioration as the other animals. Reproductive efficiency was lowered; skeletal structures were severely impaired; dental irregularity and gingivitis were common, and all kittens showed some form of deficiency in development.

Cats fed evaporated milk were damaged even more, and sweetened condensed milk produced the most marked deficiencies of all. Even the raw metabolized vitamin D milk (from cattle fed irradiated yeast) proved harmful. The males showed osseous disturbances following its use, and the adult males died within 10 months, with the young males failing to live beyond even the second month. In some instances cats which had been fed either cooked meat or one of the forms of heated or vitamin D milk would be placed upon a completely raw diet, which would be continued in subsequent generations. Improvement in resistance to disease was noticed in the first and second generations in the "regenerating" animals, though there were still allergic manifestations, and reproduction was erratic. In the third generation there was considerable further improvement, and by the fourth generation some of the animals returned to completely normal skeletal and tissue form.

From these experiments, as well as all others which have been reported, results of feeding raw and cooked foods under laboratory conditions become readily apparent. It follows that, almost without exception, experimental animals thrive well upon an exclusive diet of raw foods. With general uniformity they immediately suffer from various forms of deterioration--physical, sexual, and mental--when given various forms of cooked foods. It has indeed been shown that members of certain animal species fail to reach maturity and reproduce if sufficient cooked foods are included in their diet. The degree of damage may vary to some degree with different animals, but in no instance have large quantities of heat-processed foods been consumed over a long period of time without some harm being observed. The contrast is clearly observed in all cases, and the many different animals used in the experiments show that the results do not apply to only certain kinds of experimental animals, but may be accepted as a general principle in all such nutritional work.

Quoted from the book “Elixir of Life” by Arnold De Vries

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 Post subject: Re: Nutritie - Efectele degenerative ale gatitului
PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:46 pm 
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EXPERIMENTELE POTTENGER

Poate cel mai important din toate experimentele pe animale cu alimente crude si gatite, sint cele ale doctorului Francis Pottenger Jr, unul din cei mai mari medici si oameni de stiinta. Acestea s-au desfasurat la cunoscutul Pottenger Sanitarium in Monrovia, California, si au acoperit o perioada de zece ani. Atit sobolani cit si pisici au fost folosite. Sobolanii carora li s-a administrat lapte incalzit au suferit multiple degenerari, dintre care alterarile structurii osoase au fost remarcabile cu adevarat.

Cu pisicile, experimentele au fost raportate in mare detaliu si au acoperit un mare numar de animale. Un total de 900 de pisici au fost studiate si inregistrari complete au fost pastrate pentru aproape 600 dintre ele. Animalele au fost studiate generatie dupa generatie, si Dr. Pottenger a publicat rezultate detaliate ale experimentelor, in ce priveste cresterea, reproducerea si toate aspectele starii de sanatate a animalelor. In aceste teste, animalele au fost hranite cu resturi de carne (incluzind muschi, oase si organe), lapte si ulei de ficat de cod. Animalele au fost impartite in diverse grupe, in functie de conditia hranei - gatita sau cruda - care li se administra. Unele pisici au fost hranite in totalitate cu carne si lapte crude, altora li s-au oferit doua treimi din hrana gatita si o treime cruda. In unele cazuri s-au folosit carne cruda si lapte pasteurizat. Un numar de pisici au fost de asemeni hranite cu lapte indulcit si condensat, lapte praf, sau lapte fortificat cu vitamina D si carne cruda. Toate grupele au beneficiat de ulei de ficat de cod.

Pisicile hranite in intregime cu carne si lapte crude au ramas intr-o stare de sanatate excelenta in toate cazurile. Dezvoltarea fizica a fost practic perfecta si toate pisicile s-au reprodus omogen de la o generatie la alta, mentinindu-si forma craniului si a toracelui larga, fete late cu arcade molare si orbitale proeminente, arcade dentale bine formate, cavitati nazale adecvate si corpuri lungi. Pisicile nu au suferit de viermi, infectii sau paraziti. Membranele erau ferme si avind o culoare roz sanatoasa. Nu s-a gasit nici o forma de degenerare. Avorturile spontane au avut loc extrem de rare, numarul mediu de pui a fost cinci si toate pisicile femele si-au ingrijit puii intr-o maniera normala. Pisicile posedau un echilibru excelent, dezvoltarea organica era completa si facultatile fizice si psihice normale erau o regula. Moartea rezulta doar ca rezultat al virstei inaintate sau ranilor sustinute in lupte. Nici o pisica nu a murit de boala.

Pisicile hranite cu carne gatita au suferit multiple defectiuni. Ca aspect erau mult mai mici, cu oase mai subtiri si mai fragile. In unele cazuri oasele cresteau disproportionat, cu picioarele din spate depasind cu mult marimea celor din fata (proportional). Animalele nu se reproduceau omogen, fiecare pui afisind un tipar scheletal diferit. Existau variatii de structura faciala similare cu cele intilnite in oameni. Configuratia craniului era diferita la fiecare individ. Deseori se observa o pronuntata atrofie a buzei superioare si in unele cazuri mandibula proeminenta. Conditiile dentale ramineau relativ acceptabile la prima generatie, desi ocazional se manifesta gingivita; a doua generatie de obicei avea dinti mult mai mici decit normal si distribuiti in mod neregulat pe intinderea arcelor dentale. Singerarea gingiilor se marea considerabil. Unii dinti puteau fi pierduti (cadeau). La a treia generatie pierderea majoritatii dintilor prin decalcifiere si carii devenea o regula. Distributia spatiala a dintilor era atit de neregulata incit era afectat intregul aspect facial. Alterari ale structurii osoase severe apareau in toate cazurile. Continutul de calciu scadea de la un normal 12-18 % din greutatea osului la primele generatii, la 3.5-7 % in a doua generatie, si in final la 1,5-3 % in a treia generatie. Continutul de fosfor scadea de asemeni progresiv, si pina la a treia generatie oasele ajungeau sa aiba un aspect poros si se inmuiau ca si cauciucul. Asta rezulta in picioare arcuite, coloane deformate, si alte diformitati.

Eficienta reproductiva era mult scazuta. Avortul crestea de la 25% in prima generatie la 70% in a doua generatie. Nasterile deveneau dificile (dureroase) si multe pisici mureau in chinurile facerii. Deseori mama era incapabila de lactatie. Rata de mortalitate a puilor era foarte mare, multi fiind prea fragili ca sa fie hraniti. In unele cazuri sanatatea mamei decadea progresiv dupa nastere, dupa aproximativ trei luni survenind moartea. Alte femele aveau dificultati din ce in ce mai mari in a fi fecundate, in unele cazuri nereusind deloc. La masculi se observa perturbarea dezvoltarii genitale si lasarea testiculelor.

Sterilitatea era atit de comuna incit masculi din grupele alimentate cu mincare cruda trebuiau sa fie folositi in scopul fecundarii. Dezvoltarea caracteristicilor sexuale secundare era incompleta. Gradul de masculinitate si respectiv feminitate scadea si pisicile din ambele sexe capatau aparente mult mai neutre. Radiografii ale craniilor celei de-a treia generatii hranita cu mincare gatita arata profile neutre, in contrast cu dimorfismul sexual pronuntat evident la pisicile hranite cu hrana cruda. In acelasi timp, interesul sexual scadea foarte mult la pisicile "gatite"; in multe cazuri era pervertit, unele pisici manifestind comportamente homosexuale.

Majoritatea pisicilor hranite cu carne gatita erau foarte iritabile si ocazional muscau agresiv ingrijitorul. Parazitii intestinali erau comuni. Leziuni ale pielii si alergii deveneau tot mai grave de la o generatie la alta. Pneumonia si emfizemul pulmonar erau cauze comune ale mortii adultilor; un mare numar deceda datorita diareei urmate de preumonie. Nici o pisica nu a supravietuit virstei de sase luni in a treia generatie. Printre cauzele mortii identificate la autopsie au fost: osteomielita, leziuni cardiace, hiperopie, leziuni tiroidale, hepatita, nefrita, paralizie, meningita, cistita, artrita, colon marit, bronsita, infiltrarea muschilor cu tesust gras, rahitismul cutiei toracice, vezica urinara marita, osteoporoza.

Pisicile hranite cu o combinatie de doua treimi lapte pasteurizat si o treime carne cruda, prezentau majoritatea degenerarilor celorlalte animale. Eficienta reproductiva a fost scazuta, structurile scheletale sever afectate, iregularitatile dentale si gingivitele au fost comune, si toati puii sufereau de o forma sau alta de deficienta in dezvoltare.

Pisicile hranite cu lapte condensat au fost afectate chiar si mai mult, iar laptele condensat indulcit a produs rezultatele cele mai marcate din toate. Chiar si laptele fortificat cu vitamina D s-a dovedit nociv. Masculii au prezentat diformitati osoase, iar masculii adulti mureau in 10 luni, in timp ce puii nu supravietuiau nici macar 2 luni. In unele cazuri pisicile care fusesera hranite cu carne gatita sau lapte fiert erau trecute la o alimentatie cruda care continua in generatiile urmatoare. Se remarca imbunatatirea rezistentei la boli in prima si cea de-a doua generatie la pisicile in proces de "regenerare", desi inca existau manifestari alergice si reproducerea era eratica. In cea de-a treia generatie apareau imbunatatiri considerabile si pina la cea de-a patra generatie, pisicile se intorceau aproape complet la forma normala a scheletului si tesuturilor.

Din aceste experimente, si multe altele care au fost publicate, rezultatele hranei crude si ale celei gatite in conditii de laborator devin evidente. Rezulta ca, aproape fara exceptie, animlele exerimentale au o viata sanatoasa in conditiile unei diete exclusiv neprelucrate termic. In toate cazurile ele sufera imediat diferite forme de degenerare - fizica, sexuala si mentala - atunci cind sint furnizate cu alimente gatite. S-a aratat ca membrii anumitor specii nu reusesc sa atinga maturitatea si sa se reproduca daca suficiente cantitati de mincare gatita le sint incluse in dieta. Gradul de degenerare poate varia de la un animal la altul, dar in toate cazurile cantitati mari de hrana prelucrata termic consumate consistent, produc transformari majore de nedorit. Contrastul intre cele doua forme de alimentatie este observabil in toate cazurile, si plaja mare de animale folosite in experimente arata ca rezultatele nu depind de o anumita specie ci reprezinta un principiu fundamental al nutritiei in general.

Citat din cartea “Elixirul Vietii” de Arnold De Vries

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Wow, nu-mi spune ca din cauza mancarii gatite exista gay...
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 Post subject: Re: Nutritie - Efectele degenerative ale gatitului
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Can you guess what food we might eat to most efficiently provide the building blocks for our replacement proteins? The answer is human flesh. Its protein has just the right amount of the needed amino acids.

Asta in teorie. In practica este cu totul alta poveste. Boala vacilor nebune a aparut tocmai la vacile care erau hranite cu proteine provenite din carne si oase de vaci. Nu cred ca s-a reusit identificarea unui lant de interactiuni chimice care arata cum se declanseaza boala pornind de la canibalism. Si in primul rand, sunt absolut convins ca nu s-a dorit o asemenea explicatie. Si chiar daca explicatia a fost gasita si demonstrata dincolo de orice dubiu, "factorii de decizie" au facut sa tot posibilul sa o ascunda de ochii publicului.

Dar ceea ce este clar este ca organismul uman, si chiar si cel animal, este extrem de complex. Aproape infinit de complex. Practic in organismul vacilor fortate sa devina canibale s-au declansat niste mecanisme foarte complexe, care au probabil rolul de a respinge canibalismul. Proteinele ingerate au intrat intr-un proces diferit de asimilare, ceea ce a dus in final la declansarea bolii. Practic este perfect posibil si foarte simplu de imaginat ca, atunci cand organismul vacii a detectat ca proteinele ingerat proveneau din carne si oase de vaca (analizand compozitia si ponderea proteinelor ingerat - exista mecanisme care pot face asa ceva), s-au declansat anumiti stimuli, anumite glande endocrine au inceput sa elibereze secretii in alte cantitati si calitati decat cele obisnuite, iar asta in timp a dus la boala.

Organismul uman nu e chiar asa de prost, sa accepte doar niste proteine si gata. El poate detecta de unde provin acele proteine, in functie de ce fel de proteine sunt si in in functie de ponderea lor in hrana ingerata. Acesti doi parametri pot arata cu o precizie de ceas atomic de unde provin proteinele respective: dint fasole sau din carne de porc sau din carne de vaca, etc. In functie de informatia pe care organismul o receptioneaza, reactia lui poate fi total diferita.

In final, alimentatia este un schimb de informatii.

Dincolo de toate explicatiile conform carora carnea si mancarea gatita sunt nesanatoase potrivit unor cercetari, experimente si reactii chimice evidentiate, realitatea ar putea fi ceva mai complexa (si mai fascinanta in acelasi timp):
Poate ca a venit timpul ca noi, oamenii, sa trecem la o alta etapa - sa trecem la hrana cruda, si poate ca peste un timp va trebui sa renuntam de tot la mancare, cine stie. Corpul nostru poate fi ajustat foarte subtil (prin radiatii cosmice, nivel de vibratie, sau stadiul de evolutie al ADN-ului uman), astfel incat, in aceasta perioada si de aici incolo, hrana gatita sa nu fie bine primita de organism, si sa duca la aparitia bolilor. Chiar daca inainte au existat si mai exista destui oameni care au trait/traiesc mult si bine cu mancare gatita (Neagu Djuvara are 94 de ani si nu cred ca mananca numai raw food de exemplu), s-ar putea ca, pentru majoritatea oamenilor, hrana gatita sa devina nesanatoasa. ADN-ul poate programa felul in care este primita mancarea in organism, in functie de provenienta ei si de cum a fost procesata.

Dincolo de toate explicatiile stiintifice, este de bun simt de inteles faptul ca mancarea negatita este mai sanatoasa si mai avantajoasa: mancarea nu este denaturata, nu chinuim animale ca sa ne satisfacem, reducem substantial poluarea (fermele de vaci si porci genereaza o gramada de dejectii toxice), consumam mai putina apa si mancare (pentru producerea unui kilogram de carne se folosesc zeci de kilograme de apa si vreo 3-5 kilograme de cereale), etc. Adica exista numai avantaje.


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